tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.comments2023-11-01T03:10:48.404+11:00Don't read this crapUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger178125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-18769604615648646102023-11-01T03:08:56.322+11:002023-11-01T03:08:56.322+11:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kavinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04698187767703849718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-56390653412691601922022-11-06T17:05:55.528+11:002022-11-06T17:05:55.528+11:00Our 1971 fibreglass pool developed a crack after a...Our 1971 fibreglass pool developed a crack after a pool repair company improperly braced it. It began as a bulge in the side wall, and remained like this - with water in it - for a few more years, before collapsing completing. Now THAT was a mess! We ended up filling it in and concreting over it. Such a shame! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-51620098650106650872021-10-11T17:30:26.251+11:002021-10-11T17:30:26.251+11:00I've contacted Choice magazine as they've ...I've contacted Choice magazine as they've been running some survey into the timeshares schemes and people's inability to get out of it, although primary focus was on the where the consumers rights were not followed.<br />The email is campaigns@choice.com.au and the guy's name was Patrick.<br />Nothing happened yet as far I've seen but more unhappy 'investors' joining should push this forward ?Erogihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06004680376705835693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-62860198733357329392021-10-11T17:18:39.453+11:002021-10-11T17:18:39.453+11:00Same here. Not paid annual fees for 6 yearsSame here. Not paid annual fees for 6 yearsErogihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06004680376705835693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-52025209449381594402021-10-02T07:20:17.077+10:002021-10-02T07:20:17.077+10:00Welcome to the Hotel CalACCORnia
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Last thing I ...Welcome to the Hotel CalACCORnia<br />...<br />Last thing I remember, I was<br />Running for the door<br />I had to find the passage back<br />To the place I was before<br />"Relax, " said the night man,<br />"We are programmed to receive.<br />You can check-out any time you like,<br />But you can never leave! "<br /><br />I can't believe the timeshare industry has been able to operate the way it has for so long (and it's not just APVC). I've read ASIC recieve numerous complaints every year and it has even gone to parliment. Apparently there have been some changes about being upfront about commitments in the PDS during the sale, even if that is true, this does not help those who have already fallen victim to this scheme. The whole thing is an absolute disgrace, no exit clause, passing the debt onto the victims children when they die (probably wouldn't stand up in court but they will try)... So unbelievably unethical, and the only ways out seem to be<br />1 Sell/gift it away. (very hard to do).<br />2 Walk away, damage your credit rating, and have the debt sold on to debt collectors who will chase you.<br />3 Negotiate an exit fee, ~$5k seems common.<br />4 Get a lawyer, go to court.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-82641344004508364502021-07-22T18:24:18.802+10:002021-07-22T18:24:18.802+10:00Sorry its been a while, Accor seem to be in damage...Sorry its been a while, Accor seem to be in damage control mode, I got a call from a person who asked me what it would take to resolve my grievance and ended up getting my points back. So I paid another year of club fees and booked NZ for late September which is 2 months away... Looks like it might be covid cancelled again... If it is i think that might be it for me, will see how that pans out... I might talk to a layer about the Feasibility of a class action if that happens...Brendannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-37668362663523832332021-02-15T00:58:12.128+11:002021-02-15T00:58:12.128+11:00I think if there are enough noises - collective no...I think if there are enough noises - collective noises that are loud enough, then there could be a change. Just need to find the right people at the right place to start building the momentum. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-73885938439229520472021-02-13T16:48:57.190+11:002021-02-13T16:48:57.190+11:00You signed on the dotted line, you read the Terms ...You signed on the dotted line, you read the Terms and Conditions. They have you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-14503552191818660382021-02-13T16:17:20.915+11:002021-02-13T16:17:20.915+11:00Good luck. I tried to call and ask the same quest...Good luck. I tried to call and ask the same questions, and were getting nowhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-58240809005600276752021-02-13T16:15:49.821+11:002021-02-13T16:15:49.821+11:00Is there a class action going on for getting out o...Is there a class action going on for getting out of the membership? We were young and stupid enough to sign up. Regretting it as we grow older and realising the pointlessness of it, along with the continous membership cost increasing every year. I am amaze we have no rights and options of getting out of the membership. Has anyone tried to call the Fair Trading or ASIC? Is there a class action happening? <br />Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-20563225201305928312021-01-29T15:55:03.529+11:002021-01-29T15:55:03.529+11:00Thanks. Best of luck.Thanks. Best of luck.Adrian Guesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10496119208617904315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-68445098852001955152021-01-29T11:47:32.029+11:002021-01-29T11:47:32.029+11:00So APVC gave me back my points for cancelling my b...So APVC gave me back my points for cancelling my booking in Aug 2020 due to COVID-19, however, they said I needed to use them by the end of Feb 2021 which is no good for us because we don't take holidays at this time of the year. Also, my club fees are due and because we changed bank accounts last year, the direct debit for the old account bounced back. This has prompted me to send them an email saying that I paid my fee's for 2020 but due to COVID-19 was unable to make use of my booking, am losing 3000 points at the end of Feb because of this, and now that the 2021 fees are due, I'm worried the same thing could happen again this year if COVID-19 is still restricting travel.<br /><br />I have asked them to either waive club fees or stop points expiry during the pandemic and if they are unwilling to do either of these things then I will cease paying club fees and let my membership lapse. I have also ask them for reassurance that they will not pursue me legally seeing as the contract is apparently until 2080. I will let you know the outcome of this after they have contacted me.Brendannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-24533884072376396232020-12-28T23:46:29.494+11:002020-12-28T23:46:29.494+11:00Same her have been stuck with this rubbish for a f...Same her have been stuck with this rubbish for a few years and just want out. Ive decided to stop paying the yearly fees as every time I've asked them a question they don't answer it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11259253549207514932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-6425379849392956682020-12-28T23:40:39.312+11:002020-12-28T23:40:39.312+11:00Yes how did you get out. Yes how did you get out. Scottmaw@ozemail.com.aunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-7716859084514833532020-12-28T23:35:48.482+11:002020-12-28T23:35:48.482+11:00Hi i'm doing tge same as I've never been a...Hi i'm doing tge same as I've never been able to book a room i was forced to pay 30k very unhappy with the whole thing.Scottmaw@ozemail.com.aunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-55969879764455797532020-10-10T21:44:08.704+11:002020-10-10T21:44:08.704+11:00Yep! We feel as though we have been bullshitted an...Yep! We feel as though we have been bullshitted and taken to the cleaners by Accor. We would happily pay a good lawyer who could guarantee we can get out of this contract. Worst decision we've ever made!<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06836831960526559474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-44616207736134138222020-08-06T17:58:20.580+10:002020-08-06T17:58:20.580+10:00I called Accor customer service this arvo to enqui...I called Accor customer service this arvo to enquire about pandemic cancellation and being locked into club fees for 80 years. I was told I could cancel anytime with no points loss due to covid19 and that if I didn't pay annual fees Accor wouldn't chase me for payments, I'd be forfeiting points and maybe membership. I was advised to sell the membership but i pointed out that was very difficult, if not impossible, i was told it's possible... If there is finance owing on the membership that is different and it is Accor's finance company (can't remember the name) that chases the debt. I'm hoping this means when I've had enough of annual fees and Accor holidays i can just call it quits and let membership lapse with the knowledge my buy in costs will be lost but there will be no ongoing costs. I hope this information i was told is helpful (and truthful).<br />Brendannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-69196288690498839192020-08-04T11:15:15.693+10:002020-08-04T11:15:15.693+10:00Peertinent comments.
With the pandemic, annual fee...Peertinent comments.<br />With the pandemic, annual fees should be adjusted/waivered.Adrian Guesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10496119208617904315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-9531026581340858532020-08-04T10:44:06.155+10:002020-08-04T10:44:06.155+10:00My wife and I fell for the slick AVC high pressure...My wife and I fell for the slick AVC high pressure sales pitch about 12 years ago (about 6 months before we were married) and were able to pay it up front (so no loan). I think we paid about $23k for a platinum 5000 membership, and annual fees were about $500/year. We figured we would use it for our 3 week honeymoon in Europe and started planning about 3 months before the trip, which is too late to get where you want to go. We ended up having to just find places that had rooms available for the week, but that said, we did still have a great memorable holiday.<br /><br />We had to use Interval to holiday in NZ for a couple of weeks about 7 years ago to minimize losing a lot of points, we still ended up losing about 3000, but after that we learnt our lesson and have been using them for an annual ski trip every year. The first 2 were at Pinnacle resort near Mt Buller which was easy to book but 6 or so hours away, so after that we have been booking at Lake Crackenback Resort. The problem with getting accommodation at Crackenback is you have to wait until midnight ticks over and book 12 months in advance. The rooms will be all gone within a minute so you have to have the website ready in advance and be fast.<br /><br />Over the years I have been called up by AVC sales to upgrade my membership, probably every 2-3 years. The last time I told them I'd never want to upgrade as it's too expensive, the annual fees are getting ridiculous, and increasing your points also increase your annual fees proportionally (ie double the points = double the fees). I haven't heard from them for a few years so I might be getting a call soon...<br /><br />I regret ever getting into AVC as annual fees have gone up each year and are currently at $1100/year. Although we have made it work for us, and we have got our moneys worth over the years, it has been a lot of effort to do that, and when people ask me about it I always warn them about the booking issues, ongoing fees, being locked in etc. <br /><br />If the fees go up again I will be looking to get out, but I noticed Redseason no longer sell second hand AVC memberships because they have imposed restrictions on a member having multiple memberships (they want you to upgrade) and not allowing a new owner access to Interval, so it is even harder to get out now. I will call them and find out if it is possible to stop paying annual fees and not using the membership, but I'm not sure even that is possible after reading what others have posted here. Surely it is not legal to make someone continue to pay annual fees if they no longer want to use the membership and let it lapse...Brendannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-73602895253961040612020-05-19T12:00:57.207+10:002020-05-19T12:00:57.207+10:00How did you get out of the AVC CONTRACT, did you s...How did you get out of the AVC CONTRACT, did you sell ut to another poir sucker?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10378643167566142150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-8036321533786694892020-05-04T20:14:14.194+10:002020-05-04T20:14:14.194+10:00I too want out. What has changed for me is health....I too want out. What has changed for me is health. I have retired now and my children won't take it on. Is their a class action in play or do all individual aggrieved members have to fight this on their own? From Perth it is difficult to make a success of this membership.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02185889318912713170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-67876060661936738382020-04-09T08:01:07.057+10:002020-04-09T08:01:07.057+10:00Glad you are happy but ... your calculations are w...Glad you are happy but ... your calculations are way off. "Rack rate" is the HIGHEST a hotel can charge (around 4X the normal rate). Just joining Accor Plus (around $400 a year) gives you heaps of benefits (one free night, big dining discounts and the cheapest room rates on hundreds of properties in the Asia/Pacific area) plus no annual fees and black-out dates. <br />Or get cheap rates through Wotif, Luxury Escapes deals, etc. You have tied your money up for 18 years with only a limited number of eligible properties (24 last count, only Aust, NZ and 1 in Indonesia).Adrian Guesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10496119208617904315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-19989804842119247052020-04-08T20:21:41.708+10:002020-04-08T20:21:41.708+10:00We bought into APVC about 18 years ago, upgrading ...We bought into APVC about 18 years ago, upgrading twice. We bought with some inheritance - $15,000 plus upgrades to $21,000. Over those years we have had endless wonderful weekends, overnights, weeks at so many of the beautiful resorts, we have given many nights away as gifts to family and friends for special events, taken along parents and in laws, friends and foster children. We have only had great experiences. We figure that if we wanted a holiday house we would have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, every holiday is at the same place, and have to pay all outgoings and do all maintenance. For $21,000 plus the annual fee we have had so many holidays at so many different 4-5 star venues. I calculated that if we had paid the rack rate of every stay, it equaled all stays for the first 9 years. After that everything has essentially been free. Our stays would have cost so much more than that. We think it was one of the best spends of our life and a wonderful way to remember the parent who gave us the inheritance. We couldn't recommend APVC more highly. We are rather shocked at all the negativity on this site!Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13420236532304869411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-56845896311729254072019-06-17T09:53:44.660+10:002019-06-17T09:53:44.660+10:00Pls advise how you got out!! this organisation has...Pls advise how you got out!! this organisation has ripped off so many people it's ridiculous that they're still allowed to operate! We're Gold members but still have crazy problems trying to book somewhere decent! Would dearly love to be free of this boat anchor! Same drill with us, we got royally conned & yet I'm an accountant and consider myself a good at sniffing out BS business deals, but the cost/benefit thing seemed to add up given what we were paying for our holidays to date. Our main complaint is getting value for the points & being able to book where we want when we want.<br />Seems to be very difficult if not impossible to access your holiday benefits easily as their labyrinthine system of BS & bureaucratic rules & penalties seems to taint everything about the product. <br />Happy to sign onto any class action to get out of this con with minimum possible losses.............Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00229683357878636401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1981100696755960967.post-74994853404883758082018-12-20T09:59:53.975+11:002018-12-20T09:59:53.975+11:00Please tell how you did it. Have had the same horr...Please tell how you did it. Have had the same horrible experience and need to get out from this scam arrangement. Any advice would be really appreciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com